It's been a while I know but I thought I'd kick of April with a religious post not just due to Easter but because I have been having a wee debate with a member of my family who is a devout Christian.He is young,doesn't preach,but does believe that those who do not become Christians will not go to Heaven. This is a little of what I've said to him then I promise I shall go back to discussing Corrie or Eastenders and what my love life is like at the moment. He just stirred a bit of something in me that I didn't actually know was there, so bear with me.
Part of me would love to have connection with the church ,deep down i actually do have faith but it has been tainted with a negative vision not of Christianity itself, but of the inherant faults in human nature and the distorted view that some have of the Church and what it means.
My Grandmother was a prime example. She not only was an extremely active member of the church but also of Eastern star,my Grandfather was a Mason,as was my Father.My family as a whole came from all creeds,protestant and catholic, but if any other faith or colour of person was mentioned in front of them it was met with bigotted reaction.
My Grandmother used to visit friends from the church regularly yet on her return would proceed to put down their personal lives,appearances or that of the inside of their homes,despite preaching to us how good a person she was because she went to church.I know from my dealings with the church since being a child (I also attended Girls Brigade up until I was 15) that this is not uncommon.In some ways it's goodness by association.I guess what I'm trying to say that Yes I could attend Church and declare myself Christian but I can get as much faith and understanding as I need simply by following what is written in the bible and my own sense of what life is all about. I feel sorry for people who live empty, shallow lives,with no thought for anyone but themselves and where they are going to get their next bout of excitement from, and I hope that they find what I have one day. I have self respect and respect for others,I have a lot of love in my heart,I have charity, I have forgiveness (although having your heart broken makes this process longer,but I'll get there)I have the unconditional love of being a mother and the life experiences to make me realise what is important.I don't believe that I'll go to hell simply by not being a member of a church, as I believe that all good people will be accepted to wherever we go when our bodies have expired,as long as they have followed the simple rules that the bible set out. Lets face it hypothetically. A child is born on an island in the middle of nowhere,the only person with him is his mother. There is no minister or priest and no Churches but his mother teaches him the common senses of right and wrong,of respect for his surroundings and the animals on the island. She teaches him not to be greedy or their sustainence will run out, she teaches him that in order to survive they must be active,that they must keep their home clean and tidy and free from bugs that could cause disease, she teaches him to be clean to stave off infections,she teaches him that although they sometimes have to kill an animal to survive that it should be done in a humane manner to ease any suffering of that animal,she teaches him that when she gets old and unable to do all she did before that he helps her and becomes a responsible and compassionate human being. Now will that boy be accepted in Heaven?xx
Wednesday, 9 April 2008
Christianity
Posted by phoenix at 7:51 pm
Labels: christians, church
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No, I don't think he will get to heaven, as I don't believe in any of that biblical stuff. I just get on with being respectful to my elders, as taught by my parents. Both non-religious.
Good to have you back, Phoenix!! xx
Hi John,nice to be back! cost me a new hard drive though (bleurgh)
Neither of my parents were religious but like you I was taught respect and the difference between right and wrong which is, I believe,essential to live a decent life. Going to Church however will not automatically make me a better person. x
It's an excellent point, and one that has been more clearly made in other faiths. Sometimes I can't help but wonder Christianity deliberately glosses over this one, and the more fundamentalist its leaning, the more the emphasis on "the word" rather than the intent.
I see the same hipocracy you do Phoenix, and it turned me off orthadox religion long, long ago. I came across too many people who preached morals, but it came down to it actually posessed none of their own. I found that incredibly sad and hollow.
All you need to know is "do unto others" I reckon. ;)
BTW... new address is http://yourtimestartsnow.blackboardsky.com/
thanks GB it's a topic I normally steer well and truly clear from as I do not profess to have the knowledge required to debate about it (who has though I suppose?, or the debates would not have been raging for thousands of years eh)I have your new address stored thanks:-)
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